EM,
Are you sure about this your doctor? I hope he was not giving your
friend ARV drugs because they are very dangerous to the body. But
clearly, if he did this knowingly, he was committing a very serious
criminal offence. You should take action to have him struck off from
practising medicine.
And how did you get him a woman to "bonk"? Was it from a legal
brothel, because you may well end up in trouble if Ambassador Ikanos,
Mayimuna, or Gwokto report you to your local newspapers. They may
print a story linking you to your colourful Mayor Ford with a headline
like this:
" After Mayor Ford's recent confessions of being a secret user of
cocaine and alcohol, it has now come to light that another senior
citizen of Toronto the 49 year old EM has also confessed to dealing
in prostitution......It thus seems the influence of embattled Mayor
Ford on his subjects seems much deeper than it was first thought....."
George Okello
On 11/12/13, fnshemereirwe@yahoo.com <fnshemereirwe@yahoo.com> wrote:
> EM,
> That doctor would not be practising if we had a government in place not this
> laissez fairre sham of a dictatorship.
> FN
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: akim odong <akimodong@gmail.com>
> Date: 12/11/2013 15:31 (GMT+03:00)
> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: {UAH} AKIM ODONG YOU HAVE GOT AN IN-COMMING Geez !!!!!!!
>
> Mr Mulindwa;
>
> Borrowing from your medical metaphor, the prevailing circumstance is a
> symptom of a rotten system and that is what i have been telling you all
> along. You cannot blame the Doctor for trying to survive, his salary has
> been diverted to buy M7's supersonic jet or take M7's daughter to Germany to
> give birth, or money for laundry for Muhoozi's army uniform. On the whole,
> the rot begins from head!.
>
> The more i read your pieces/mails the more i am convinced that we need a
> federal system in place. Imagine the millions of Ugandans with no relatives
> abroad, how do they survive; its unbearable pain to even imagine much as i
> see it everyday. All this is because of one man, M7 who, despite all the
> failures, still wants to hold on to the Chair. How selfish can one be?
>
> In a federated north, or the Nile State, we will end all that suffering with
> a stroke of a pen, on the first day of adopting a federal system. I am very
> confident of that.
>
> Mr Mulindwa, I think we have brought this discuss to a boil, lets leave it
> to simmer for now; i know we will return to it. One cannot stay away for too
> long from a good thing!
>
> Bless
>
> Akim
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>
> wrote:
> Akim Odong
>
>
>
> On reading this writing, one cannot leap and call this a problem caused by
> Unitary in Uganda but a problem caused by Yoweri Museveni which I don't call
> a problem of Yoweri Museveni but I call it a bad and poor governance. And I
> call it as such for I have a very serious problem personalizing a national
> problem. I can stand today and lament the name of Museveni this Museveni
> that and Museveni this, but the fact of the matter remains that Museveni is
> no longer a problem of Uganda the fella is soon expiring. I am going to wake
> up one of those Toronto mornings and I am going to post his dear passing.
> Uganda's problem will be short of salvation. The situation you see in Uganda
> today, the failures you have in Uganda today has absolutely nothing to do
> with Museveni, he also is just using the backwardness and incivility in
> society to survive. These Ugandans behaved that way from get go only that
> past leaders unlike Museveni refused to feed into them. Long long long ago
> before 3/4s of the membership of UAH was even born, a man defined as a Pig
> by The Kateregga's defined Uganda's problem into three sectors, poverty
> disease and ignorance. Those three survived in Ugandans even when we had a
> semi Federal system. The pill Uganda needs today is not Federalism but a
> cure of those three, and Akim Odong, when you fail to find the disease
> eating unitarism and kill it, you are going to plant Federalism in Uganda
> and it will kill it too. Start your journey by making an accurate prognosis
> let alone a right prescription.
>
>
>
> I had a long discussion with an individual in Kampala yesterday, and my
> argument was why Uganda doctors target the parents of people in diaspora.
> And this is how it works. Because Uganda medical systems are crappy, every
> village has a mobile Musawo. They show up on houses and check people's
> ailments and prescribe medications. But when they know that the patient has
> kids abroad they yank up a price of a prescription in an unprecedented
> manner, a mother of a friend in this city was told that she is a very sick
> woman and the only way she will survive is by buying a medication whichever
> prescribed at 300,000 shillings. Mom if you don't get that medication in a
> week you will die. Why do they do that? Because they know that as soon as
> they leave the mother is going to call here and the kids are going to pump
> the money home. They flew her out to South Africa and all she had was a
> fever. Akim I know a kid that was advised that he has HIV and he got a
> prescription from a very renown Uganda doctor that made the claim that he
> has HIV. Because this kid has relatives out here they spent lots of money
> on him to maintain his life. As his life became weaker and weaker we feared
> he would die faster in Uganda, so we organized to fly him out here for a
> last dance before he dies. He came with a whole pile of medication and he
> continued to use it at his arrival to North America. We drove him to places
> and to dinners as a true friend going to die. But during one of those days
> when we were dancing, after I downed a full bottle of Uganda Waragi, I asked
> him for only one last favor, to go to my Doctor and get an HIV test so that
> I know exactly his blood count then I would roughly work out when he will
> die. And that is how I exactly stated into his ears. He agreed and I drove
> him to my doctor to the opposition of his family, for they feared I was
> going to raise his stress.
>
>
>
> 9am we walked into my very good doctor and he poked him a needle for 8 test
> tubes of blood to test every inch of his dying life. 2 weeks later the
> results came back and the poor man was HIV negative, because he had been
> feeding on useless drugs from a Uganda doctor, his liver had started to
> deteriorate and that is what was killing him. We don't know what was his
> original problem yet but we think it was fever. So all monies spent on this
> man, all psychological damage done to this man was due to a single doctor's
> incompetence in Uganda and sheer greed. His liver is under treatment and I
> got him a girl to bonk last week on contract. Yes the man had lost that for
> ages while waiting for an eminent death. Akim Odong how many Ugandans die
> in Uganda due to such incompetence and greed? And I opine that this doctor
> did not sacrifice this man due to Museveni or due to Unitarism, he did so
> because Ugandans as a people are firkin backward and un civilized. Yes you
> can throw Federalism into Uganda today, but that doctor will still kill
> people and will still prescribe his medication not to heal people but to
> make money.
>
> Leave the unitary system alone !!!!!!!!
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
>
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
>
>
>
> From: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of akim odong
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:13 AM
> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: {UAH} AKIM ODONG YOU HAVE GOT AN IN-COMMING Geez !!!!!!!
>
>
>
> Mr Mulindwa;
>
>
>
>
>
> You did not have to live in Canada for thirty years to earn anything. The
> moment the Canadian federal system of governance officially accepted you as
> an immigrant, you had earned it. You were a freeman!. Contrast that to the
> Rwandese refugees who are being deported by Yoweri's unitary government, to
> Kagame's slaughter houses.
>
>
>
> In any given circumstances, when a home is full of delinquent you don't
> blame the children. If the children in a home can only speak Runyakitoro and
> no any other language, you cannot blame them. Equally when a child speaks
> English with M7's accent, you cannot blame it. The person to blame is the
> parent for crying out loud!.
>
>
>
> In your submission Mr Mulindwa, you blamed Ugandans across the board;
> nationally and abroad without necessarily giving me the reason why. The
> reasons does elude you, not because you are naive but because you do not
> want rightfully to attribute it, to the parent. At the national level the
> parent; the person who should have seen to it that the children were not
> lacking, is Yoweri Kaguta Museveni. the very name you're afraid to mention!
> The buck ends with him!.
>
>
>
> The question therefore, that lingers to mind, is why should a man such as
> you Mulindwa, well exposed, well travelled and well read cannot see that
> fact, and cannot afford to blame the failed parent responsible for the
> bastardly upbringing of Ugandans, contrary to your upbringing not under the
> failed parent but under his predecessors? The answer lies within the home.
> You are afraid to hang the family underwear in the open. You cannot afford
> to say that the man from the west who led the Bantu army is a dumbo and has
> nothing to offer progressive Ugandans, except threats and lies of old!. The
> current situation has compelled able thinkers to devise other means of
> stopping such idiosy taking hold in the nation's saiki, hold other people's
> progress; and importantly, to stem the profusion of such insanity to other
> regions. The ready answer lies in, self determination!.
>
>
>
> Mr Mulindwa, you will forgive me on insisting on the Acholi, for i don't
> know any other. But post independent Acholi prided themselves, not on how
> long the horn of their bull; or how much milk the cow produces nor how big
> their banana plantation is, but how well educated they were. This pride and
> endeavour right or wrong, has however, been curtailed by post independence
> political mayhem. Despite that, Acholi stands tall in the number of highly
> educated fellow per capita. This is a tradition that we want to
> revive/maintain, but under the current leadership and system of governance,
> we will not. The only option therefore, is self determination at best and at
> least, federalism! For the sake of others (region or tribe) who have
> something to pride themselves on; like the Baganda who want to preserve
> their kabaka, or the Ankole who pride themselves on the long horned cattle;
> or the Batooro on their beautiful women or the Teso on their ajono, Bagisu
> on their circumcision; federalism is the only solution from government
> interference. The same applies to development. Acholi is under developed not
> because of lack of finance or lack of able body but because of M7 's
> "Unitary Government of Interference" (UGI). The same applies to all regions
> sir!
>
>
>
> Finally Mr Mulindwa, its pointless blaming the action/behaviour of those
> Baganda who were forced to leave their kingdom for greener pastures. What
> you need to know is that, their behaviour towards another whilst in the
> diaspora, is as a result of what the came with from home. Brain surgery
> wouldn't help either. They are themselves, products of the current
> parent/regime; the archetypical of "delinquent children" and by the by, this
> is not confined to Baganda alone but all the young people brought under this
> unitary dambo of a regime led by the man whose name, you Mulindwa, cannot
> dare mention or whose dirty laundry you cannot dare hang in the open! You're
> are a traitor to the learned.
>
>
>
> Akim
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Akim Odong
>
>
>
> You write very well, what I am trying to put across is not easy to grasp so
> I just have to keep on pounding it until when you will get my stand. Many
> African countries have failed to move forward for they are copying what they
> see in Western countries. Look at Uganda as a good example, Ugandans are
> demanding for tarmac roads in Bugerere, but seriously to those in Toronto
> you know that we have marum roads as north of the city as North of Steels
> Avenue. And why? Because tarmac roads are not a right but a privilege. If
> you have the resources to pay for the tarmac road you get it, if you have
> very few people on the road so pay less taxes to the government, you use a
> marum road. Why do we need to tarmac the road to Kyabazaala? Because we came
> to London and saw one. Not for we need one but saw one. A Ugandan exported
> fresh pasikalamu rolls from UK to Entebbe, go figure.
>
>
>
> And no Ugandans are actually backward and I am not ashamed to state so
> publicly. Let us address some serious examples here. When you look closely
> at all Kingdoms reinstated by Museveni into Uganda, do you see any Kingdom
> that runs efficiently? Have you ever got even a single accounting system
> from any of them? Do you know how much they have? Do you know how much they
> owe? Do you know of their five year and ten let alone 15 year plan? The
> answer Is no, Uganda kingdoms are actually ran like State house. Corrupt and
> a dungeon of thieves. The reason they do not murder each other yet is
> because they do not have political authority to have an army and Police
> officers. The one of Toro managed to build that palace to a success because
> Libyans built it, if you handed that project to the Solomon Gafabusa Iguru
> crap, to today you would have never got a brick on top of a brick. That
> failure would have not been caused by unitarism but because Ugandans as a
> people, are backwards and uncivilized. Mengo today gets millions of dollars
> to nothing to show, that failure is not because Uganda is under Unitary but
> because Ugandans as a people, are backwards and uncivilized. When you look
> at the population that has left Uganda and lives into civilized society,
> Ugandans have failed to create a society without wars between each other.
> 90% of Ugandans that get deported out of London, do so for fellow Ugandans
> report them to the UK immigration. A people that would have reached into UK
> and helped each other to self-build. And most reported each other are
> Baganda. Ugandans in UK do not fail to live together due to unitarism but
> because Ugandans as a people, are backwards and uncivilized.
>
>
>
> There is no war that has been massively fought in UAH as UNAA war, every
> election is a crisis and every money donated to the organization is a
> crisis, every convention is a crisis, every elected government is a crisis.
> They have reported each other to police and summons have been issued. They
> have yelled on who to represent Museveni best to who to represent Mengo best
> to you name it. UNAA's failure is not due to Unitarism but because Ugandans
> as a people, are backward and uncivilized. Few days ago I have had a phase
> to refuse UAH to be a wagon of going after people's private lives, and I am
> not here to re-ignite the OJ issue, but I can very comfortably state that if
> we were in Uganda and not in diaspora, OJ would have been a very dead man
> today due to a bullet, because of the vindictiveness that the moderators
> decided to impugn on him. Was there a misunderstanding between OJ and the
> moderators of UAH? Probably yes, but the manner at which it was handled was
> not only very wrong but clearly primitive. And that standing up to use a
> forum to destroy a man's name was never caused by Unitarism but because
> Ugandans as a people, are backwards and uncivilized.
>
>
>
> Yes I live in Canada a country running on Federalism and I have some
> substantive rights I enjoy, and given the almost 30 years I have lived in
> this country I have earned those rights. But within this very same Federal
> country, we have a side that I need to raise up to you tonight. The Natives
> have failed to build themselves. Municipal government provincial government
> and Federal government all pump literally zillions of dollars to them and
> yet they're dying of water borne diseases. I was researching on an issue few
> weeks ago and I found out that Natives live in Bands thus a small locales we
> would call villages in Uganda, a leader of a Native Band in this country
> gets a salary more than double a salary of the Canadian prime minister. And
> yet the people he leads are dying of water borne diseases. These are people
> that live in a developed country but a country running on a federal system.
>
>
>
> Akim Odong, your fight today is not a fight to change the system, it is a
> fight to go home and fight backwardness and uncivillization, and that war is
> not going to be beaten by you for it is an ages war. What you can do for now
> is simply to ignite it. Using Federalism as an antidote is delusional sir
> for it has never created a democratic society. What you need in Uganda today
> is a dictator that can make things move, there is a reason why Iddi Amin has
> notable things he did in Uganda yet Binayisa and Lule have squat. Your
> population in the North can be very productive if we put a single man like
> Nassur Abdulla into Gulu with 200 guns and a full authority than 100
> Norbert Mao's sir. Uganda's worst enemy today is backwardness and
> un-civilization than poor leadership.
>
>
>
> Leave the unitary system alone !!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
>
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
>
>
>
> From: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of akim odong
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:24 AM
> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: {UAH} ROADS IN ACHOLI LAND: WHO IS TO BLAME? MPS OR M7?
>
>
>
> Mulindwa;
>
>
>
> I'am glad you did not compare Canada to Nigeria for that matter!.
>
>
>
> I don't agree that we should wait until Uganda develops to the level of
> pre-federal Canada or USA to establish federalism. This is akin to
> suggesting to the new nation of Southern Sudan in their quest for rail
> network; to build steam engine then graduate to diesel trains and finally
> electric train in order to establish a working rail network. I' am saying,
> go straight from the cart to maglev trains because that is where the rest of
> the world is!.
>
>
>
> Secondly, the Rwakitura regime does not allow freedom of speech or political
> engagement by the masses, so how in God's name will we achieve that level of
> political freedom? On the other hand, you as an individual in Canada,
> you're enjoying the fruit of federalism yet cannot demand the same for your
> nationals in their own habitat; how civilised is that? To suggest that we're
> too uncivilised to self govern is false; an attempt on your part, to portray
> Ugandans as backward while ignoring the fact that its the leadership that is
> backward and holding the nation back through intimidation and the rule of
> the gun.
>
>
>
> Because you are still too uncivilized to even self-govern.
>
> Mr Mulindwa, prior to Colonialism, we managed our own affairs and nations
> like the Acholi had evolved beyond unitary monarchy; every clan had their
> king and yes! we were still united at wars with other tribes like the
> Banyoro or even inter clan wars saw clan coalescing against another etc.
> This is proof that federalism was practised in Acholi way before the notion
> of reached Buganda who had succumbed to the mighty Kabaka. The Acholi
> clearly objected to a lone figures to dictating demands like the current
> unitary form with M7 being "chief everything" despite his incompetence. So
> the Acholi demand to return to federalism began pre-independence, that is
> why we insist that federalism is not "the Buganda issue" but the "Uganda
> Issue"
>
>
>
> Mr Mulindwa, you have clearly failed to convince me why we should continue
> with the status quo. The argument that we should first wait until we achieve
> certain milestone in economic and socio-politics is floored. The scruffy
> constitution that we currently have, is enough universal guide to start
> from. The failure to give federalism a chance is clear indication that the
> current leadership wants to continue with the subjection and leeching,
> stealing resources from other areas to benefit their own. This is the only
> reason why M7 still wants to rule over the biologicals substances and others
> and that is what you Mulindwa, a critical thinker is aiding and abating.
>
>
>
> Those in Ottawa have such a massive retirement package that no Canadian can
> access, they retire earlier than anyone in any other sector. Why can they do
> all that? Because they hold on power and are accountable to no body.
>
>
>
> I say, this is for the Canadians to deal with. If they are happy with the
> situation they will sit and do nothing!
>
>
>
>
>
> Akim
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Akim Odongo
>
>
>
> Canada is a Federal state, but before it became a Federal state, an Ontarian
> never defined a Quebecor as a biological substance, Nova Scotia's never
> camped those in New Brunswick, Albertans were not defining British
> Columbians as dirty and have jiggers. What happened in Canada is that all
> these jurisdictions lived under their individual identifications and
> respected each other. If an Ontarian murdered a Quebecor he was arrested and
> if an Albertan murdered an Ontarian he was arrested. When you look at
> provinces like Ontario and Quebec and Alberta they invested into their
> regions way before getting Federalism. What I am explaining here is that if
> Federalism has changed anything in this massive land, it has piled up so
> much power into Ottawa than in Toronto for example, and that Ottawa which is
> not accountable to any one is sucking money out of us. The money we send to
> Ottawa as Ontarians is more than half of what we get out of the Ottawa
> congromolete and we have no right to even question. Those in Ottawa have
> such a massive retirement package that no Canadian can access, they retire
> earlier than anyone in any other sector. Why can they do all that? Because
> they hold on power and are accountable to no body.
>
>
>
> Mr Mulindwa give one reason; rather subjection and leeching, that Uganda
> should remain unitary.
>
>
>
> Because you are still too uncivilized to even self-govern.
>
>
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
>
>
>
> From: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of akim odong
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:14 PM
>
>
> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: {UAH} ROADS IN ACHOLI LAND: WHO IS TO BLAME? MPS OR M7?
>
>
>
> Mr Mulindwa;
>
>
>
> Equally, i once attended a Kiganda kwanjula where my nephew decided to join
> hands in marriage with a beautiful Kiganda girl. I learnt so much as i was
> surprised how much value is put on certain things. That said, we are all
> different and it was a mistake that the one who conquered us decided to hole
> us in the same pot, that is why we need to reverse things.
>
>
>
> I find it rather insulting of you to say, No we are not going to hand
> Federalism to Northerners as if M7 has finished us completely. No! he
> hasn't and could never; we will demand for federalism relentlessly. I can
> assure you it will not take us 50+ years like it has others, much less!
>
>
>
> Mr Mulindwa give one reason; rather subjection and leeching, that Uganda
> should remain unitary. The Baganda want out because they want to be subjects
> to their Kabaka. We the Acholi want out because we want to develop our land
> and enjoy our autonomy and not subject to any king or life president. Our
> way of life is far more important than the national donor baked cake.
>
>
>
>
>
> Akim
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Akim Odong
>
>
>
> Ssalongo Ssenoga has been very consistent that the problem we have in Uganda
> was built on the way Africa was demarcated, you see those that demarcated it
> never cared on what tribe goes where and what language goes where. And I
> have tried so much to educate him that all people need services and safety
> the same way. A Langi needs food for his kids as a Mugwere so if you put
> Bagwere and Langis in a same house they can do all their cultural respect
> but at the end of the day they end up on the same dining table. I lost a
> Langi kid in this city and we buried him in this city, we pulled his father
> from home and came here. At his arrival we took him to a funeral home where
> his son was and he paid the respect he had to. But at the death of that kid
> I leant a great deal about the Langi culture that I never knew. We had an
> old man from home and a couple of Langis that were in town who joined him,
> and I got specific instructions of how the process was to take place. There
> were times we were to leave him with the only very close people, there was a
> way he had to be dressed, there was a type of suit he had to be put in and
> many many things I never knew about. But when all had been done, we all
> joined up in what unified us, we had to bury the kid and we all gathered and
> bury him in great respect. The problem Ssenoga has is that he is stuck into
> a revolving door of the functions we held to this funeral than the one that
> combined all of us which is the burial of this kid. That is the fundamental
> change we need as Ugandans, to focus on what combines us altogether. Life
> peace safety food educating our children and good hospitals. Every human
> being needs those. But I add that Ssalongo Ssenoga actually forgets that
> whites never built Buganda but Baganda, they got Baganda Banabuddu Batooro
> and combined them all together to build Buganda, half of Buddu was Tanzania
> for crying out loud. Why is it a crime for whites to combine us but not a
> crime for Buganda to combine us? Better yet did the whites build Buganda to
> cause the split off of Banyala and Baluuri?
>
>
>
> No we are not going to hand Federalism to Northerners for that will build a
> war between Langis and Acholis and Baluri are going to fight too. Ugandans
> are asking for Federalism not for it is a good governance system but because
> they want to use it as a vehicle to access the national cake.
>
>
>
> We will take the God damn firkin cake to them.
>
>
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
>
>
>
> From: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of akim odong
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:59 AM
>
>
> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: {UAH} ROADS IN ACHOLI LAND: WHO IS TO BLAME? MPS OR M7?
>
>
>
> Mr Mulindwa;
>
>
>
> That is chicken and egg monkey business! If after twenty 28 years M7 has
> failed to deliver on democracy and peace what of us campaigning without even
> a spear at hand? So, we will not let anything including fear detract us from
> our demand for federalism. Time to turn the table on its head, which means,
> Federalism first and the rest will follow. Mr Mulindwa, you see Ugandans
> have tried everything, coups, gorilla warfare etc except federalism. Its
> only a person, short of a complete brain to continue repeating the same
> order. The fear of losing influence and the desire to subject others under
> one's authority while leeching them, is what is holding Ugandans from
> embracing federalism.
>
>
>
> Again Mr Mulindwa, its of no use to compare Uganda to Nigeria. Much as given
> the chance, every Ugandan student would migrate to Nigeria, if MUK can't get
> the lecturers over there; i believe the two countries are different in many
> ways and also federalism as a system of governance would have been adopted
> at different times, for different purposes with different results. So
> Nigeria's experience, could never be used to mirror Uganda in a few years to
> come.
>
>
>
> Let me suggest that, we should work hard for a softer landing rather than a
> crash landing, because federalism is airborne and heading to Uganda like a
> meteorite. It's been christened, "meteorite fede"!.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Akim
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Akim Odong
>
>
>
> Federalism does not build democracy, it is the crown of democracy. If
> Federalism built democracy, Nigeria would have been the most democratic
> state in Africa yet it is not. You are so low on the democratic scale that
> are even campaigning on peace.
>
>
>
> Akim peace is a fundamental right sir.
>
>
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
>
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
>
>
>
> From: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of akim odong
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:52 AM
>
>
> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: {UAH} ROADS IN ACHOLI LAND: WHO IS TO BLAME? MPS OR M7?
>
>
>
> Mr Mulindwa;
>
>
>
> Whatever policies the two parties campaigned on did not matter very much to
> the indigenous Acholi who after all those years of trauma, wanted peace and
> anything was better than M7 and his party. With all the intimidation they
> still rejected him and voted for FDC who had promised peace and most
> importantly, an alternative to M7 and his cohorts. So, whatever policy M7
> preached was not going to work because he was not going to deliver anyway.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, FDC promised peace and end the hatred of Acholi by M7,
> they also promised to rebuild Acholi and replenish their livestock that was
> ferried south day and night, to Rwakitura and other generals farms at the
> height of the intimidation. This did not materialise and as such, the Acholi
> decided to teach FDC a lesson and the next time round voted for NRM, Onek
> being the first etc. This of course, emboldened M7 who, with the mixed use
> of bribery, rigging, voter intimidation and withholding basic services and
> donor money, not to mention taxes collected from Acholi, forced the Acholi
> to vote NRM. So, suffice to say that the elections results in Acholi was not
> based on policies as such but survival instinct and rejecting the unwritten
> policy of intimidation, murder and denial of basic rights, by the movement.
>
>
>
> Mr Mulindwa, this duo/duel bulls.. by the two protagonist, is going to end
> very soon because Acholi have realised that none of the parties is upto the
> jobs, and that its up to them and they alone, to determine their destiny,
> development and maisha. That is not to suggest that Acholi is calling for
> autonomy but some form of devolution which will see that Acholi and or with
> neighbours, form a state managed not from Rwakitura or Entebbe, but north of
> Karuma bridge. We believe everybody or region deserves the right to
> determine, how services are delivered in their region, how their culture is
> preserved and how they want to be administered. Federalism offers that
> alternative and the leading voice of Federalism in Uganda presently, is UFA;
> with its simple message on federalism through referendum.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Akim Odong
>
>
>
> KItgum House and Opoka house are not built due to Federalism, let us not be
> that naive. But I need you to clarify to me the difference Acholis saw
> between The Movement policy and FDC policy to elect FDC. For clarification,
> w have two parties in Acholi land preaching policy, The Movement is
> preaching policy and FDC is preaching policy. What policy did The movement
> campaign on to make The Acholis elect them, and what policy did FDC preach
> to Acholis to elect them?
>
>
>
> I prefer starting with critical thinking !!!!!
>
>
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
>
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
>
>
>
> From: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of akim odong
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 3:24 AM
> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Subject: Re: {UAH} ROADS IN ACHOLI LAND: WHO IS TO BLAME? MPS OR M7?
>
>
>
> Mr Aliga;
>
>
>
> In Acholi today there're more NRM MPs like never before. Voted or not its
> immaterial, the fact remain that they are the ones serving the constituency
> and it was incumbent on the Achioli to speak out if they feel their votes
> were rigged or miscounted. Do not forget that at the height of M7's
> intimidation and torture of Acholi, the Acholi rejected him overwhelmingly
> by voting for FDC. The north was FDC territory!.
>
> Mr Aliga, i am sure that Acholi turned to the deadbeat party (NRM) because
> FDC did not deliver despite heroic efforts of the likes of Okumu Reagan. One
> consolation i have is that come 2016 and onwards, Acholi will find their
> home in UFA, with federalism (loc ken) taking roots in Acholi and hopefully
> through this choice, the Acholi will spearhead and grant the Baganda what
> they could not achieve on their own in fifty years.
>
> Mr Aliga, my request to you is to start thinking in a federated manner,
> because that name "Aliga" comes from somewhere in Uganda and its only people
> with such name who can develop the area where such appellation originates,
> you cannot leave it to the Tumusime, Musoke or Rwakisomething to come and do
> it for you. Federalism, therefore, offers such a life line. Just look how
> proud the Baganda are of their region not withholding the fact that its
> people from other regions who are stupid enough to build houses and
> businesses in Buganda including Kampala (Kitgum House, Opoka house), thus
> contributing to the glitter. While decrying the state of affairs in their
> region. How musiro can that be!
>
> Sleep over this and when you wake up, rise up a federal and join the
> (loc-ken) movement, for the name Aliga should be synonymous with the success
> of its origin and not a by word of a settler in Buganda, like the name Okero
> has become!
>
>
>
> Akim
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Aliga Charles <charly3850@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Akim,
>
>
>
> Do you seriously believe that those people voted NRM?????? Since when was
> NRM/A genuinelly voted into government?
>
> CC: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> From: raj62ali@gmail.com
>
>
> Subject: Re: {UAH} ROADS IN ACHOLI LAND: WHO IS TO BLAME? MPS OR M7?
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:24:42 +0000
> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
>
>
>
> Abeewo musajja waffe Okello Oryem!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 8 Nov 2013, at 07:27, akim odong <akimodong@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hannah;
>
>
>
> I think the Acholi are to blame for voting for NRM the deadwood party
> instead of UFA the progressive party!
>
>
>
> Akim
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Hannah Ogwapiti
> <hannahogwapiti@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> We have Acholi Parliamentary Group (APG) and each one were given 50m by
> government outside their swollen pay to develop their constituencies. As a
> team these mps collectively would have at least tarmac 7centimeters of road
> in Acholiland and asked government that please top up our efforts. But
> instead they tarmac their oesophagus or call it alimentary canal?
> Ujoneeeee.This is Pader road in Acholiland same country, different regions.
>
>
>
> 2.this is Pader road between Kilak Corner and Ladinge Center.This is
> fundamental change in 27 years, compare this road to roads in Western
> Uganda, cry my beloved people cry, they will never treat you like human
> beings. Have you seen Kabale Kisoro Road?
>
>
>
>
>
> COMPARE THAT TO KABALE KISORO ROAD BELOW IN WESTERN UGANDA
>
>
>
> --
> H.OGWAPITI
> -----------------------------------------------------
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we
> are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
> servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
> ---Theodore Roosevelt
>
>
>
>
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Tuesday, 12 November 2013
Re: {UAH} AKIM ODONG YOU HAVE GOT AN IN-COMMING Geez !!!!!!!
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