Re: {UAH} Robert Atuhairwe your answer please

Which names? Does my word make someone who they are not. Just believe

what you wish.



On 11/16/13, KASULEX MOSES <kasulex@hotmail.com> wrote:



> Atuhairwe, So stop your nonsense of calling these killers/terrorists and

> criminals names which they are not as you stated earlier below.

>

>> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 12:15:21 -0800

>> Subject: Re: {UAH} Robert Atuhairwe your answer please

>> From: 007aronda@gmail.com

>> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com

>>

>> The answer is clear from time immemorial. Who isn't a killer? You? He

>> is a criminal and a half. Treason! Crucify him!

>>

>> On 11/16/13, KASULEX MOSES <kasulex@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >

>> > Atuhairwe, can you briefly use your cognitive ability for a moment and

>> > agree

>> > that Makenga is a killer,terrorist and a criminal???

>> > Its a very simple question for you to answer..ok.

>> >

>> >> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:07:46 -0800

>> >> Subject: Re: {UAH} M23 Boss Col. Makenga is Feared Carrying the HIV

>> >> Virus

>> >> as Ugandan Govt gets Worried

>> >> From: 007aronda@gmail.com

>> >> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com

>> >> CC: kasulex@hotmail.com

>> >>

>> >> Kasulex, soon you will hop into a sewer. I am talking 'mannerism',

>> >> 'poise' not your things of self-appointed overseer.

>> >>

>> >> On 11/16/13, KASULEX MOSES <kasulex@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > Imagine, this bad man Atuhairwe calling a killer/terrorist-Makenga

>> >> > a

>> >> > gentleman.Gentlemen dont kill they protect human life..Atuhairwe

>> >> > supports

>> >> > each and every criminal/killer,terrorist in this world...no wonder.

>> >> >

>> >> >> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:53:51 -0800

>> >> >> Subject: Re: {UAH} M23 Boss Col. Makenga is Feared Carrying the HIV

>> >> >> Virus

>> >> >> as Ugandan Govt gets Worried

>> >> >> From: 007aronda@gmail.com

>> >> >> To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Gen. Makenga speaks ripe French. He is a gentleman.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> On 11/14/13, Bobby Musoke <bobbymusoke@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > Forumists,

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > It looks to me like this story is a rehash of opinions that have

>> >> >> > been

>> >> >> > posted on UAH about Sultan Makenga.It might even be a broad hint

>> >> >> > from

>> >> >> > our

>> >> >> > Tutsi friends that Sultan Makenga is about to die from foul play.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > What i find surprising is the statement that Sultan Makenga is

>> >> >> > about

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > die

>> >> >> > from aids!

>> >> >> > A good number of our Tutsis bosses in Kla have been rumoured to

>> >> >> > have

>> >> >> > aids

>> >> >> > since 1986 but nobody has come out to state that any of them are

>> >> >> > about

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > die.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Sultan Makenga wenenye kirabika you are about to meet your maker.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:47 AM, william Ekwelu <

>> >> >> > williamekwelu@googlemail.com> wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> *M23 Boss Col. Makenga is Feared Carrying the HIV Virus as

>> >> >> >> Ugandan

>> >> >> >> Govt

>> >> >> >> gets Worried he Might Die in its Custody, Plans to Relocate Him

>> >> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> Another

>> >> >> >> Country Takes Form*

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> *By Fred Daka Kamwada & Agencies *

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Col sultan Makenga is a slender man in his late 30s, who walks

>> >> >> >> with

>> >> >> >> a

>> >> >> >> limp, weighs about 55 kilograms, the same light-weight kilograms

>> >> >> >> as

>> >> >> >> Gen

>> >> >> >> Laurent Nkunda of the CNDD another rebel group that was a

>> >> >> >> precursor

>> >> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> M23, is hard to predict.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> He doesn't look like an ambitious military leader like so many

>> >> >> >> rebel

>> >> >> >> leaders. He speaks fluent Swahili with a soft touch but doesn't

>> >> >> >> seem

>> >> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> know a word of English or French.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> He virtually looks lazy and clueless and doesn't seem to have

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> shrewdness akin to rebel leaders or the fortitude associated

>> >> >> >> with

>> >> >> >> rebel

>> >> >> >> leaders. There are whispered rumours that he carries the HIV

>> >> >> >> Aids

>> >> >> >> virus

>> >> >> >> which he could have contracted during the years they plundered

>> >> >> >> eastern

>> >> >> >> Congo and raped many.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> He has red lips and walks with a stick for support. His

>> >> >> >> sickness

>> >> >> >> has

>> >> >> >> put

>> >> >> >> the Ugandan government on tenterhooks. One official who has seen

>> >> >> >> him

>> >> >> >> told

>> >> >> >> this reporter that Makenga is actually about to die.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> ''The man (Makenga) is very weak that he cannot walk without the

>> >> >> >> support

>> >> >> >> of a stick. He is obviously suffering from the HIV virus because

>> >> >> >> he

>> >> >> >> has

>> >> >> >> all

>> >> >> >> the symptoms associated with the deadly disease'' said the

>> >> >> >> officials

>> >> >> >> who

>> >> >> >> declined to disclose other details.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> *Center of a Storm *

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> But despite the sickness allegations and slender body, you under

>> >> >> >> estimate

>> >> >> >> him at your own peril, for the slender dark skinned leader of

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> M23

>> >> >> >> is

>> >> >> >> now at the centre of the storm and about to cause war in the

>> >> >> >> great

>> >> >> >> lakes

>> >> >> >> region between the Ugandan government and Democratic Republic of

>> >> >> >> Congo.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> He has been in command of the M23 rebel group that has been

>> >> >> >> fighting

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> Kinshasa government for the last two years.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Last week his 1000+ plus strong insurrectionist M23 group was

>> >> >> >> defeated

>> >> >> >> by

>> >> >> >> the combined force of the Congolese with the eager support of

>> >> >> >> Tanzania

>> >> >> >> and

>> >> >> >> the United Nations force. And they were kicked out of their

>> >> >> >> strongholds

>> >> >> >> in

>> >> >> >> parts of Rutsuru, Goma, and Bunagana before being forced to

>> >> >> >> retreat

>> >> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> Uganda.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> On November 7, 2013, he surrendered with hundreds of M23

>> >> >> >> fighters

>> >> >> >> in

>> >> >> >> Mgahinga National Park, Uganda. The BBC world service reported

>> >> >> >> that

>> >> >> >> Brig

>> >> >> >> Makenga and about 1,700 fighters were hastily disarmed and are

>> >> >> >> being

>> >> >> >> held

>> >> >> >> in a secret location.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> But the official version is that he is in the custody of the

>> >> >> >> Ugandan

>> >> >> >> government contrary to the expectations of the DRC govt which

>> >> >> >> want

>> >> >> >> him

>> >> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> answer for crimes he committed in the eastern parts of Congo.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> It's widely believed that Makenga was the reason why the much

>> >> >> >> publicised

>> >> >> >> talks between the M23 and the DRC collapsed early this week.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> It's said that the talks collapsed because the Congolese govt

>> >> >> >> simply

>> >> >> >> wanted an assurance that Makenga would account for his crimes

>> >> >> >> while

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> M23

>> >> >> >> group want to convert him into their political leadership.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> The Ugandan govt thought the two warring parties would agree,

>> >> >> >> but

>> >> >> >> Ugandan

>> >> >> >> defense minister Crispus Kiyonga was embarrassed when the DRC

>> >> >> >> govt

>> >> >> >> opted

>> >> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> walkout of the talks.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> *Relocate Makenga *

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Now news reaching our desk shows that the Ugandan government is

>> >> >> >> now

>> >> >> >> toying

>> >> >> >> with the idea of relocating the M23 leader to another country

>> >> >> >> amidst

>> >> >> >> protests from the Congolese government, that wants him tried for

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> war

>> >> >> >> crimes.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> This week the Ugandan government spokesperson Zephaniah Ofwono

>> >> >> >> Opondo

>> >> >> >> (ZOO) told the media that a decision on whether to hand him over

>> >> >> >> would

>> >> >> >> have

>> >> >> >> to wait until a peace deal is signed between DR Congo and the

>> >> >> >> M23

>> >> >> >> rebels.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> But both DR Congo and the UN are adamant that the M23's top

>> >> >> >> commanders

>> >> >> >> will not be given amnesty, and wants him extradited to Congo.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> But Makenga is lucky that he has no ICC arrest warrant hanging

>> >> >> >> over

>> >> >> >> his

>> >> >> >> head. Nevertheless the UN Security Council imposed a travel ban

>> >> >> >> and

>> >> >> >> asset

>> >> >> >> freeze on him last year, accusing him of being responsible for

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> "killing

>> >> >> >> and maiming, sexual violence, abduction, and forced displacement"

>> >> >> >> -

>> >> >> >> a

>> >> >> >> reference to the fact that some 800,000 people fled their homes

>> >> >> >> during

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> 19-month rebellion.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> The other glitch is that Uganda has no extradition treaty with

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> Congo.

>> >> >> >> This makes it difficult for the Ugandan govt to hand him over to

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> Kinshasa.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> *Failing Health *

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> The Ugandan govt has been put in a catch twenty situation as the

>> >> >> >> issues

>> >> >> >> of

>> >> >> >> his failing health also come to the fore. He is visibly sick and

>> >> >> >> is

>> >> >> >> beginning g to weaken every day. It's believed that he is under

>> >> >> >> intensive

>> >> >> >> medical care.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Writing in the 'Thinking Africa' blog, DR Congo researchers Timo

>> >> >> >> Mueller

>> >> >> >> and Christoph Vogel recall meeting him in April at an over-run

>> >> >> >> government

>> >> >> >> military base in the small village of Rumangabo, in eastern DR

>> >> >> >> Congo.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> They wrote that Makenga did not look well when they met him.

>> >> >> >> "One

>> >> >> >> observation was striking: Makenga seemed exhausted, leaning deep

>> >> >> >> -

>> >> >> >> almost

>> >> >> >> crouching - into the chair, while his face and eyes remained

>> >> >> >> vivid

>> >> >> >> as

>> >> >> >> if

>> >> >> >> juxtaposed against his fatigue. His entourage surrounded us, and

>> >> >> >> his

>> >> >> >> mannerisms remained limited and slow," they said.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> That was about seven months ago when the researchers met him.

>> >> >> >> His

>> >> >> >> situation has worsened to an extent that he is about to die. The

>> >> >> >> Ugandan

>> >> >> >> govt wouldn't want such a person to die in its custody because

>> >> >> >> it

>> >> >> >> would

>> >> >> >> lead to all sorts of conspiracy theories to fly around. But the

>> >> >> >> DRC

>> >> >> >> govt

>> >> >> >> wants him… dead or alive. *Watch this space for more updates *

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> http://investigator.co.ug/politics/1199-m23-boss-badly-sick.html

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> "When a man is stung by a bee, he doesn't set off to destroy all

>> >> >> >> beehives"

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

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>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

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